Posted to Technical Tips Forum on 11/27/2012
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This is about current draws on late model vehicles that seem
elusive.
What I am starting to find the reason for this problem is
the OBDll devises that are used by insurance companies. This
problem was addressed by SAE at the last meeting in Anaheim,
Ca. as well as with the OE's that are currently struggling
to find reasons for batteries doing dead for no reasons.
The issue is the OBD devises. They are classified on the
data bus as a scan tool. Their job is to request data and
send it out over Bluetooth to a phone. With the vehicle
running this is not a problem. Yet when you turn off the
vehicle, the devise is staying powered up because of
constant power on the OBDll connector. The 'scan tool' is
still requesting data. The CAN bus which normally goes to
sleep is now woken up. The 'scan tool' does not know that
the vehicle is not running. It's just requesting data. If
the CAN bus is only to the PCM there is usually not an
issue. This problem does not seem to be occurring on the
other communication protocol because the PCM's power down
when the ignition is turned off.
If the CAN bus is networked so that communications is
allowed after vehicle is powered down, this current draw
issue is now appearing on these vehicles. The vehicle
population that I have seen this problem effect is on
vehicles with Permanent DTC's capability, 2010 and later.
Also on vehicles with high end CAN buses. Which manufacturer
of the devise is to blame? It does not appear to be
manufacturer dependent at this time.
The problem is the devise is a 'scan tool' that is
requesting data after the vehicle is turned off and is
turning the CAN bus on to get this information. The
solution: Unplug the devise when you turn off the vehicle.
Hope this helps
Steve Caruso Educator/Instructor/Consultant Consultant Westminster, California, USA
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